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Saturday, April 08, 2006

Sorry for the delay in posting this, but there's just so much interesting stuff about the following UnChristian Fucktards that it's easy to get swamped in determining just which of the hatreds spewed by these willfully ignorant jerkoffs should be highlighted

For Part I of this post, look at the post below

NOTE: While I would have loved to include actual quotes from this conference, there were NO transcripts made available anywhere, most notably on the Vision America site itself-which is odd, considering that the organizers proclaimed it a smashing success, but apparently not enough of a success to share the speakers stirring oratories with the faithful unable to attend this theological pep rally

Ironically, the closest thing to a transcript for this event was found at the liberal "People For The American Way" site

Now, let's deal with just a few of the various nutzoids who took part in the Vision America mutual masturbation conference last week

The assclown who organized Vision America is Rick Scarborough, and Melissa destroys this weak-faithed ninnyhammer HERE and HERE

And since she included lots of links in her Scarborough Scourging, I can't flame the bastard any better than SS did

One other thing, the featured lackbrains and malaperts were only a few of the attendees for the first two panel discussions at the Vision America conference

First up at the "War On Christianity" BSFest, Lt Gordon Klingenschmitt, but first, the backstory

Last year numerous allegations surfaced at the Air Force Academy in Colorado that some of the Chaplains and Air Force Officers were proselytizing to those not of their religious persuasion

It was the opening ceremony of a four-day Spiritual Fitness Conference at a Hilton hotel here last month organized and paid for by the Air Force for many of its United States-based chaplains and their families, at a cost of $300,000. The chaplains, who pledge when they enter the military to minister to everyone, Methodist, Mormon or Muslim, attended workshops on "The Purpose Driven Life," the best seller by the megachurch pastor Rick Warren, and on how to improve their worship services. In the hotel hallways, vendors from Focus on the Family and other evangelical organizations promoted materials for the chaplains to use in their work.

The event was just one indication of the extent to which evangelical Christians have become a growing force in the Air Force chaplain corps, a trend documented by military records and interviews with more than two dozen chaplains and other military officials.


The change mirrors the Air Force as a whole, where representation is rising from evangelical churches. But there are also increasing numbers of enlistees from minority religions as well as atheists. It has all created a complicated environment and caused tensions over tolerance and the role of the military chaplain.

Some conflicts have already become public. A Pentagon investigation into the religious climate at the Air Force Academy here found no overt discrimination, but it did find that officers and faculty members periodically used their positions to promote their Christian beliefs and failed to accommodate non-Christian cadets, for example refusing them time off for religious holidays.


In the Navy some evangelical chaplains say they are the ones discriminated against. Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, of the Evangelical Episcopal Church, says he was warned by commanders that his approach to the ministry was not inclusive enough. When a Catholic sailor on his ship died, Lieutenant Klingenschmitt said he preached at a memorial service and emphasized that for those who did not accept Jesus, "God's wrath remains upon him."

After that and several other incidents, Lieutenant Klingenschmitt's commanding officer recommended that the Navy not renew his chaplain contract.

The lieutenant is fighting to remain in the military. "The Navy wants to impose its religion on me," he said. "Religious pluralism is a religion. It's a theology all by itself."

Perhaps Klingie should learn grammar, as how can a plural "Religious Pluralism" be a singular "all by itself" at the same time?

PBS also focused on this issue

The issue came to a head last year at the Air Force Academy, where complaints by Jewish cadets and others of proselytizing by evangelical officers and cadets led to a Pentagon investigation.

In response, the air force issued new interim guidelines telling chaplains to be "sensitive to those who do not welcome offerings of faith," and in public settings or where attendance is mandatory, to offer only brief "nonsectarian" prayers. That didn't sit well with some on Capitol Hill."

POTTER: Republican Walter Jones and more than 70 other members of Congress want President Bush to intervene, and more than 200,000 supporters have signed a petition seeking an executive order to protect the right of chaplains to pray according to their faith. Their cause célèbre is navy Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt.

And Klingenschmitt has quite the dramatic touch common to attention whores everywhere, as he started staging a hunger strike in front of the White House, one that ended after 18 days with a declaration of Victory by Klingenschmitt

A Navy chaplain ended an 18-day fast outside the White House yesterday, proclaiming victory in his bid to use Jesus' name when praying in public.

"The Navy has finally given me back my uniform and let me pray publicly in Jesus' name," said Lt. Gordon James Klingenschmitt. He said his supervisor, Capt. Lloyd Pyle, told him Friday that he can now give Christian prayers while uniformed.


"Today is the first step, and we have a long way to go before we have religious liberty in the Navy," Lt. Klingenschmitt said.

He also said the issue has become widespread among Navy chaplains since the late 1990s. Two lawsuits were filed in 1999 and 2000 against the Navy by 50 Christian chaplains, stating the Navy discriminates against evangelical and Pentecostal clerics.

"Most of those chaplains are no longer in the Navy, saying they could not get promoted and they're out on the street now without jobs, because they prayed and preached the wrong way when the government was trying to censor their prayers and sermons," Lt. Klingenschmitt said.

Seeing as how you're a good "Christian" Lt Klingenschmitt, which means you wouldn't EVER lie about anything, why not tell the whole world about these now homeless & penniless former naval clerics, like real names that can be verified by more than your say-so alone

And what's this, an allegation that Klingenschmitt may have declared a less than well-fought victory, oh no, say it ain't so

The Navy maintains that chaplains are allowed to pray in the name of all deities -- including Jesus Christ -- during chapel services. However, at other public events, sensitivity to the needs of all those present is encouraged and chaplains may decline an invitation to pray if not able to do so for conscience reasons.

Lt. William Marks, a Navy spokesman, said yesterday there never were restrictions against Lt. Klingenschmitt and he is not sure why the chaplain considered himself victorious.

"The policy hasn't changed," he said. "That's the way it's always been."

And apparently, other clerics in the military also take some exception to the efforts of Klingenschmitt's backers as well

An association that represents more than 70 percent of the chaplains in the U.S. military, including many evangelical Christians, is opposing a demand by conservatives in Congress for a presidential order guaranteeing the right of chaplains to pray in the name of Jesus.

The rising calls for an executive order are based on "confusion and misinformation," because Christian chaplains routinely pray in the name of Jesus, in public, thousands of times a week in military chapels around the world, said the Rev. Herman Keizer Jr., chairman of the National Conference on Ministry to the Armed Forces.

"This has been portrayed as though chaplains are not allowed to pray in Jesus's name, without any distinction between what they do all the time in worship services and what they do occasionally, in ceremonial settings where attendance is mandatory," Keizer said.

Yessirree, nothing says "Christian" like the false claims of a cleric/blowhard in professing "victory" for those who wish to pray "In Jesus' Name", even though that's NEVER been banned

And for a perfect response to Klingenschmitt's "Woe Is Me" false accusations, go here to read Klingenschmitt's well-earned beatdown, written during Klingenschmitt's public hunger strike

Lt. Klingenschmitt is in clear violation of the Covenant and The Code of Ethics for Chaplains of the Armed Forces and more importantly has disobeyed direct orders. As a commissioned officer this is unacceptable. All chaplains know going in that they will have to work in a multi-faith environment and minister to the needs of all servicemen regardless of their faith. If he can’t do this in good conscience he should resign his commission.....In addition to being stripped of his uniform, Lt. Klingenschmitt should be stripped of his commission and discharged from the Navy. Any officer who disobeys direct orders should expect to have that coming. Going on a hunger strike is more akin to a child pitching a fit and holding his breath than to what a commissioned officer is supposed to provide; leadership

To that, I can only add a VERY hearty "AMEN"

We've got two more real lively specimens to study under the microscope here, but that will have to be in the next post, as encyclopedia treatises aren't always my favorite way to go


  • I know this is an older post, but I thought you might like to know that today, 21 Oct, 2016 the Oxford dictionary used "malapert" as its word of the day and gave your sentence "One other thing, the featured lack brains and malaperts were only a few of the attendees for the first two panel discussions at the Vision America conference." as an example of the proper use of the word's noun form. As an aside - the Evangelical Episcopal Church seems to be little more than a diploma mill for wannabe paid chaplains. Gone to seminary and can't get ordination? Talk to us. Want to be a priest, but haven't done seminary? Take an open book test with 4 weeks to answer and you too can be a be a minister.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:46 AM  

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